Matt Hancock, former UK Secretary of State for Health and Social Care,
was confronted by Heiko Khoo on 12 July at the Royal Statistical
Society, London. Khoo asked Hancock what evidence he based the narrative
that asymptomatic transmission occurred and lockdowns slowed the spread
of a virus:
“The entire principles you started the lockdowns
with, the measures with, were based, effectively, on an unproven, at
least that time, a totally unproven argument that asymptomatic
infections were a significant factor driving transmission. And there was
no evidence for that whatsoever. The only evidence was based on one
German woman, sorry one Chinese woman in Germany, who was taking large
amounts of ibuprofen in order for her to prevent her from having
symptoms. Now, I’m not saying that pre-symptomatic people who are just
becoming ill couldn’t transmit, at least in that first phase. But there
was actually no evidence backing that up.
“The second point …
you mentioned the lockdown measures forecasts. You said there wasn’t 40
years of data, Neil Ferguson has been working on forecasting for decades
and the fact of the matter is: all his epidemiological forecasts have
been wrong – every single one of them. And not by a factor of one or two
but by a factor of 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 … every single case he was
vastly incorrect. And the argument that there would be 500,000 dead had
there not been a lockdown has no basis in fact. It’s pure speculation.
But because you can compare it with other countries around the world you
can see … there’s no evidence whatsoever that the lockdowns made any
beneficial difference to the number of deaths.”
After fudging
answering the point about forecasts, Matt Hancock responded: “The second
point, asymptomatic, is really important … there was not the formal
evidence of asymptomatic transmission on a clinical trial basis and
therefore it didn’t get into the formal advice to me. But we knew there
were a lot of, um, uh, there were a lot of stories of it happening.” ...<<<Read More>>>...
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